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I don't know if this belongs here or not... It's kind of a follow up to the "Gear means nothing" thread... in a way.

I'm finding that I'm really loosing a LOT of additional income by strictly being a mobile service.

I've tried doing the referral thing with several of the other studios in the area, but everyone seems to want my ears in their project. They like the way I mix, but I don't have a brick and mortar to have clients come to... so I am SERIOUSLY thinking of taking the plunge.

I found a secluded 10 acre tract with the makings of a great facility. Now to the grit of the matter...

If you had it all to do over, would you hire a consulting firm to turn-key your studio? -OR- Would you go it alone as project manager and sub-contract everything out that you couldn't handle yourself?

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Ted Nightshade Tue, 02/19/2002 - 20:36

Good to hear you'll persevere! This may be simplistic, but just leave plenty of space for a huge console if need be.
If you spend a mint on a fine old Steinway :D

If you can take a vacation from gear obsession and come back with a fresh perspective when you really have a place to put it all, I truly envy you! You might be smiling pretty big by then.
:w: Ted

anonymous Tue, 02/19/2002 - 20:46

Max,

Sorry it has taken so long to get back with you on this post. It got burried and I didn't check it. Sorry. Anyway..

Darren, et al,

You mention that $50k is an installed price. What I guess I'm trying to figure/calculate/justify/whatevertermyouwanttoinjecthere is this;
Who wins the pissin' contest when/if there's a difference of opinion as to the wall/soffit construction?

Who's gonna pay for the changes if your engineer's give my project manager/architect incorrect spec's for my room size and dimensions and construction methods and materials?...

I'm not being disrespectfull at all. This would and does apply to any vendor on any project as complicated as a control room.

I know I end up on the short end on the sheckles, but who generally accepts the legal shit when something, an "awshit" , as Fletcher so appropriately put it, happens?

Well when you design your room, you need to pick out a pro with the track record to do it. Genelec, specializes in sound reproduction, this is what they do. Their high end solutions start at around 30k and got to about $50k. Genelec is in the business to provide professional solutions, and they don't stay in business by "passing the buck" and sticking you with a room that you have 30-50k in just speakers. This is something that is taken and planned from conception. The price of their expertise is already figured in. If the room isn't right on the big systems the frequency response is all wrong, thus making the sound reinforcement system inaccurate. Genelec doesn't want this anymore than you.

I deal with companies that stand behind their product and service as I do. I am presently working on business relationships with Genelec and Studio Acousticians, that compliment each other so the above scenario doesn't occure. I talked to Genelec to see who they recomend, and who does quality work. I am presently putting together a team that could meet your needs in an effecient manner.

It is a big job putting together a commercial recording solution. You need help you can rely on.

Max if you want we can get together with some studios that Genelec has installed some wall mount speakers, and you can talk to the studio owners, look at them, and listen. There are no surprises and secrets in this part of the business. We'll go to several places that you can see first hand. You have to be comfortable with who you work with. If you are interested I'll set it up. That way you'll know. No commitment needed. I feel confident that if you are in the market for the Wall system, Genelec is the only way to go.

Have you decided on your total budget?

Thanks

Darren
http://www.dixondigital.com

MadMax Wed, 05/29/2002 - 16:36

Well, I FINALLY get to post an update on things...

Here's the poop so far; Found 5.6 Acres with a nice house with a basement AND.... (drum roll please......)

A 30x40 unfinished barn with 20+ foot clear-span ceiling height!!!

It's on a concrete footer with cinderblock foundation that is 3 courses above ground. The walls are 20' high on top of the block. The walls are 2x8 unfinished on the inside. The exterior is 3/4" CDX (painted). The roof is 4-12 pitch with 3/4" plywood, tar paper and asphalt shingle.

The unfinished floor is about 3" of large gravel and "crush and run" packed solid. Should make the concrete pouring a bit more stable than just pouring it on top of undisturbed soil and an inch or two of gravel.

We're hoping to close by the end of June with construction to begin ASAP.

Jumping the gun a bit... I found a hell of a buy on 728 sq ft of 3/4" Cherry tongue and groove. The wood will be going into storage for a couple of months whilst everything else gets underway.

Anyone have any recommendations on a preferred type of wood for finished flooring? I was thinking about hard rock maple or ash. I can get red or white oak very reasonably priced and almost always available.

Thanx for any input.

xaMdaM

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