why don´t ya use 5.3 in a separate partition?

sorry what do u mean by seperate partition?
is it possible to use my 002R with os9?

yes you could, you need two seperate hard drives, I'm pretty sure you can't partition one drive and put two different op systems on it, you need one drive for os9 and one for osx. By the way a partion is a way of dividing one hard drive into several different sections, almost like a spliting a pie in a half, both are of the same size, if you put them back togather you still have one pie, both halfs of the pie are now seen as their own piece.

Vessles,

You can do multiple operating systems on the same computer...... this through either hardware or software.

You are better off doing it with seperate drives for the operating systems.. although i have sucessfully done it using the primary drive for multiple OS's (in my case Windows NT, IBM OS2, UNIX and still maintained my original DOS for some engineering software i wanted to keep in use) In your case though - i would seriously reccomend seperate boot drives due to the possibility of conflicts with similar file names.

So you could do this through the computer bios by enabeling/disabling seperate primary drives as the boot drives....... or through boot manager software.

The easiest way to accomplish this (from my point of view) is with a boot manager....... there are quiet a few different options out there for this - and you always want to try to verify that they have been successfully tested with your OS.....

here's a link to a site you can get some info from:

http://www.buildorbuy.org/bootmanagers.html

Good luck,

Rod

Hi Rod, which softwares do you use from DOS years bud?
I am really curious
Thanks

Originally posted by Alécio Costa - Brazil:
Hi Rod, which softwares do you use from DOS years bud?
I am really curious
Thanks

2nd Try......... lol

Alécio,

Structural Engineering Software, mechanical engineering software, etc....but not musical.

The moment of a beam..... it's tensile strength - it's bending strengths - those things never change....... so for me upgrading never made sense - just to get a pretty, new, GUI....

All i care about is the data - and the properties of a beam....... or a siesmic analysis, or wind loading - it's all the same today as it was 50 years ago....... so i keep what i have - and live with the fact that it's an "antique" that still runs...... while maintaing a multi boot sytem to make it happen......

Rod

Uncle Rod is cooooooooooooool!
So are you a mechanical engineer? I thought you were an architect.

Originally posted by Alécio Costa - Brazil:
Uncle Rod is cooooooooooooool!
So are you a mechanical engineer? I thought you were an architect.

Alécio,

I am a strange bird........ i do mechanical, electrical, structural, civil and acoustical engineering....... I am considered an expert in my field (by others) in building codes, life safety codes and the american's with disabilities act........ and am a voting member of the National Fire Protection Association.

I am occassionally a guest speaker for the AISC (American Institute of Steel Construction) and was featured in their June issue of Modern Steel Construction. I was a keynote speaker at their recent convention in Baltimore on the subject of Staggered Truss Construction.

I wrote the Specifications and did all of the architectural detailing for a national museum at the Submarine Base located in Groton CT.

I am certified in Hazzardous Waste disposal as well as transport and and a certified Hazzardous Waste Site Supervisor.

So i tend to wear a lot of different hats with the firm i am employed with.

I also play music........ :D :D :D sometime not so badly even.......

Rod

Amen...
Amen...
Amen...
Let us bend our knees

Man, I will trash my engineering diploma right now. As Rod and Steve enter the chat forget Eng.Alécio Costa. lol

Rod, very off topic now but...
You mentioned fire...
A guy came with a strange story that he did an acoustics course a few years ago in brazil and it was said that it is used sonex inside some planes...

And that in California many years ago, a plane had a problem, fire inside I dunno and people died because ot a toxic gas that is liberated as the foam is burned. is this true?

Alécio,

1st - I apologize if i sounded like a pompus ass..... i may be an ass - but am really not pompus. Above is just what i do. So if i came off sounding conceited = please forgive me.

Below is a Material Data Safety Sheet for the 3M Acoustical Foam....... I do not know who produces foam for Sonex.

I have repeatedly said in the acoustic forum that any one using foam has to make certain to use the proper material..... which is fire safed.

If the wrong product is used - what you described can happen.

However - look below - the proper material = and you will see this is not a problem.

Rod

MATERIAL SAFETY 3M
DATA SHEET 3M Center
St. Paul, Minnesota
55144-1000
1-800-364-3577 or (651) 737-6501 (24 hours)
Copyright, 2001, Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Company.
All rights reserved. Copying and/or downloading of this
information for the purpose of properly utilizing 3M products
is allowed provided that:
1) the information is copied in full with no changes unless
prior agreement is obtained from 3M, and
2) neither the copy nor the original is resold or otherwise
distributed with the intention of earning a profit thereon.
This material safety data sheet (MSDS) is provided as a courtesy
in response to a customer request. This product is not regulated
under, and a MSDS is not required for this product by the OSHA
Hazard Communication Standard (29 CFR 1910.1200) because, when
used as recommended or under ordinary conditions, it should not
present a health and safety hazard. However, use or processing
of the product not in accordance with the product's
recommendations or not under ordinary conditions may affect the
performance of the product and may present potential health and
safety hazards.
DIVISION: ENGINEERED ADHESIVES
INTERNATIONAL OPERATIONS
TRADE NAME:
SJ2502A ACOUSTIC DAMPING FOAM
ID NUMBER/U.P.C.:
JT-2700-0513-8 - - - JT-2700-0592-2 - - -
JT-2700-0593-0 - - -
ISSUED: December 06, 2001
SUPERSEDES: March 19, 1999
DOCUMENT: 07-1302-4
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1. INGREDIENT C.A.S. NO. PERCENT
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Polyether/Polyurethane Frame retardant
Foam.................................. Unknown 100
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2. PHYSICAL DATA
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BOILING POINT:................. N/A
VAPOR PRESSURE:................ N/A
VAPOR DENSITY:................. N/A
EVAPORATION RATE:.............. N/A
SOLUBILITY IN WATER:........... neglig.
SPECIFIC GRAVITY:.............. N/D
PERCENT VOLATILE:.............. N/A
pH:............................ N/A
VISCOSITY:..................... N/A
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Abbreviations: N/D - Not Determined N/A - Not Applicable CA - Approximately
MSDS: SJ2502A ACOUSTIC DAMPING FOAM
December 06, 2001 PAGE 2
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2. PHYSICAL DATA (continued)
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MELTING POINT:................. N/D
APPEARANCE AND ODOR:
Thin Sheet, Gray, Odorless
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3. FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARD DATA
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FLASH POINT:................... N/A
FLAMMABLE LIMITS - LEL:........ N/A
FLAMMABLE LIMITS - UEL:........ N/A
AUTOIGNITION TEMPERATURE:...... N/D
EXTINGUISHING MEDIA:
Non-combustible. Choose material suitable for surrounding fire.
SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES:
Wear full protective clothing, including helmet, self-contained,
positive pressure or pressure demand breathing apparatus, bunker coat
and pants, bands around arms, waist and legs, face mask, and
protective covering for exposed areas of the head.
UNUSUAL FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARDS:
No unusual fire or explosion hazards are anticipated.
NFPA HAZARD CODES: HEALTH: 2 FIRE: 1 REACTIVITY: 0
UNUSUAL REACTION HAZARD: none
OSHA FIRE HAZARD CLASS: Not applicable
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4. REACTIVITY DATA
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STABILITY: Stable
INCOMPATIBILITY - MATERIALS/CONDITIONS TO AVOID:
None known.
HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Hazardous polymerization will not occur.
HAZARDOUS DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS:
None known.
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Abbreviations: N/D - Not Determined N/A - Not Applicable CA - Approximately
MSDS: SJ2502A ACOUSTIC DAMPING FOAM
December 06, 2001 PAGE 3
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5. ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION
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SPILL RESPONSE:
Not applicable.
RECOMMENDED DISPOSAL:
Dispose of waste product in a sanitary landfill. Disposal
alternative: Incinerate in an industrial or commercial facility in
the presence of a combustible material.
ENVIRONMENTAL DATA:
Not applicable.
REGULATORY INFORMATION:
Volatile Organic Compounds: N/A.
VOC Less H2O & Exempt Solvents: N/A.
Since regulations vary, consult applicable regulations or authorities
before disposal. U.S. EPA Hazardous Waste Number = None (Not U.S.
EPA Hazardous).
EPCRA HAZARD CLASS:
FIRE HAZARD: No PRESSURE: No REACTIVITY: No ACUTE: No CHRONIC: No
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6. SUGGESTED FIRST AID
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EYE CONTACT:
No need for first aid is anticipated.
SKIN CONTACT:
No need for first aid is anticipated.
INHALATION:
If signs/symptoms occur, remove person to fresh air. If
signs/symptoms continue, call a physician.
IF SWALLOWED:
No need for first aid is anticipated.
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7. PRECAUTIONARY INFORMATION
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EYE PROTECTION:
Not applicable.
SKIN PROTECTION:
Not applicable.
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Abbreviations: N/D - Not Determined N/A - Not Applicable CA - Approximately
MSDS: SJ2502A ACOUSTIC DAMPING FOAM
December 06, 2001 PAGE 4
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7. PRECAUTIONARY INFORMATION (continued)
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RECOMMENDED VENTILATION:
Provide appropriate local exhaust for grinding, cutting or sanding
cured material.
RESPIRATORY PROTECTION:
Avoid breathing of dust created by cutting, sanding or grinding.
PREVENTION OF ACCIDENTAL INGESTION:
Not applicable.
RECOMMENDED STORAGE:
Not applicable.
FIRE AND EXPLOSION AVOIDANCE:
Not applicable.
EXPOSURE LIMITS
INGREDIENT VALUE UNIT TYPE AUTH SKIN*
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Polyether/Polyurethane Frame
retardant Foam..................... NONE NONE NONE NONE
* SKIN NOTATION: Listed substances indicated with 'Y' under SKIN refer to
the potential contribution to the overall exposure by the cutaneous route
including mucous membrane and eye, either by airborne or, more particularly,
by direct contact with the substance. Vehicles can alter skin absorption.
SOURCE OF EXPOSURE LIMIT DATA:
- NONE: None Established
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8. HEALTH HAZARD DATA
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EYE CONTACT:
No adverse health effects are expected from eye contact.
SKIN CONTACT:
No adverse health effects are expected from skin contact.
INHALATION:
Dust from cutting, grinding, sanding or machining may cause
irritation of the respiratory system.
IF SWALLOWED:
Ingestion is not a likely route of exposure to this product.
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Abbreviations: N/D - Not Determined N/A - Not Applicable CA - Approximately
MSDS: SJ2502A ACOUSTIC DAMPING FOAM
December 06, 2001 PAGE 5
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8. HEALTH HAZARD DATA (continued)
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OTHER HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION:
This product, when used under reasonable conditions or in accordance
with the 3M directions for use, should not present a health and
safety hazard. However, use or processing of the product in a manner
not in accordance with the product's directions for use may affect
the performance of the product and may present potential health and
safety hazards.
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SECTION CHANGE DATES
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HEADING SECTION CHANGED SINCE March 19, 1999 ISSUE
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Abbreviations: N/D - Not Determined N/A - Not Applicable CA - Approximately
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be correct as of the date issued. 3M MAKES NO WARRANTIES, EXPRESSED OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ANY IMPLIED WARRANTY OF
MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR COURSE OF
PERFORMANCE OR USAGE OF TRADE. User is responsible for determining
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user's method of use or application. Given the variety of factors that
can affect the use and application of a 3M product, some of which are
uniquely within the user's knowledge and control, it is essential that
the user evaluate the 3M product to determine whether it is fit for a
particular purpose and suitable for user's method of use or application.
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Due to the remote possibility that electronic transfer may have resulted
in errors, omissions or alterations in this information, 3M makes no
representations as to its completeness or accuracy. In addition,
information obtained from a database may not be as current as the
information in the MSDS available directly from 3M.

"1st - I apologize if i sounded like a pompus ass..... i may be an ass - but am really not pompus. Above is just what i do. So if i came off sounding conceited = please forgive me."

Hey, Bud. With a curriculum like this, I am 10000000000% even more happy to be your friend!!!!!

Congratulations from the junior moderator nephew, sir!!

The answer is that the 002 requires PT6 in OSX, it appears that OS9 drivers, don't exist. :cool: