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Millennia NSEQ-2 with Fred Forssell board

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wow, pretty nice sounding eq. doesn't sound anything like the stock version. very sweet midrange, actually sounds sweet all around. Just had a listen to Dave Mcnair's and was quite impressed. Pick up a used one and pop in the $800 board and you've got a nice eq.

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Michael Fossenkemper Thu, 10/26/2006 - 03:56
Massive Mastering wrote: Michael, tell me if I'm wrong here -

This mod, in part, actually *removes the tubes* no?

If that's the case, I may put the beast back on my "gotta have it" list...

Yes, it removes the tubes. The stock version never really did it for me. It was nice, Ok, but not ooohhhhh. The mod is oooohhhh.

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FredForssell Fri, 10/27/2006 - 14:47
Hey guys,

Thanks for the kind words about my replacement main board the NSEQ-2.

Brad is correct in that I am working on an entirely new mastering eq which will use the replacement board as its main amplifier board, but the new EQ is at least a year away and will be very expensive... lots more expensive that an NSEQ-2 with a replacement board installed.

So, if you already have an NSEQ-2, or if you have purchase one on the used market you can greatly improve its sonic quality by installing the replacement board right now.

And not to worry... Forssell Technologies Inc is a blue LED free zone. I hate those things and you won't ever see one on our products. With the gear in my studio that has blue leds, I cover them with console marking tape so I don't have to look at them.

Cheers,

Fred Forssell

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FredForssell Sat, 10/28/2006 - 16:05
So I take it that your new eq will be more than just a re-work of the NSEQ-2?

Yes. The new EQ is a completely new design. Unlike the NSEQ-2, it will use all discrete JFET filter amplifiers, have 5 bands per channel, all bands will be fully parametric, the two lowest bands and the two highest bands will be switchable from peak/dip to shelving response, and it will have a bunch of other things that I'd prefer to not mention just yet.

The new EQ is an EQ designed for mastering (unlike the NSEQ which I designed as a tracking EQ), so all functions will be stepped switches (21 pos for boost/cut, 24 pos for freq, and 6 pos for Q) using high quality Elma rotary switches. It will be housed in a 3U chassis with large knobs and graphics on all functions.

But as I said before... it will be expensive. Way more expensive that an NSEQ-2 with the mod board installed. And it won't be available until at least Sept 2007, if all goes well.

Sorry Michael but I don't understand your second question.

Cheers,
Fred

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FredForssell Thu, 11/02/2006 - 07:32
No. They are (or were when I was part of MM) the exact same pot. The mastering version simply used a version of that pot with a detented section added.

But as I said, that was then. I have nothing to do with MM and have no contact or communication with them at all, so I have no idea what they are now doing with the products. Therefore, as always, YMMV.

I can take a stock unit and make is a mastering unit because I have the detented sections for the pots. I often do this with EQs that I've added my new main PCB to. Most of the people buying the new pcb are mastering people and they want the stepped controls for mid-band freq and Q. Mastering people also typically want the vastly improved sonic quality, selectable boost/cut gains, and elimination of the tube section that the my pcb offers.

I hope this helps to answer some of your questions.

Thanks,
Fred Forssell

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archived member Thu, 11/02/2006 - 09:23
FredForssell wrote: Mastering people also typically want the vastly improved sonic quality, selectable boost/cut gains, and elimination of the tube section that the my pcb offers.

OK Fred, That Does It !!!

I've delayed gratification long enough, send me one of the PC boards, I'm ready.

(seriously, I'll call you this afternoon with an order)

Cheers JT

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archived member Fri, 11/10/2006 - 02:56
Michael Fossenkemper wrote: Jerry, let us here about it when you get it.

Our Forssell mod board for the NSEQ-2 arrived a couple days ago, and we installed it tonight after our sessions. Austin's venerable audio guru Chet Himes actually did the install back in our shop tonight as a gesture of friendship. Nick acted as the helper, and I "supervised"... which means I impatiently looked over Chet's shoulder and asked "whaddaya doin now ...are you sure the soldering iron is hot enough ...make sure you follow the wiring diagram... what does that green wire do... and being a general nuisance.

Reminds me of a story; many years ago back in Lubbock, I used to teach guitar at Perkins Music Company. Mr. Perkins was a fine gentleman and guitar repairman. He kept a sign over the workbench that read:

Guitar Repair - $10 per hour,

If you watch - $20 per hour,

If you help - $30 per hour!

He did some fine fret work, but didn't like anyone "supervising".

So taking my cue from Mr. Perkins, I finally left Chet & Nick alone to do the mod job, and went to my office to do paperwork.

After the mod was finished, we set it in the rack, made the connections, and powered her up. Opened the session I had done earlier yesterday, and went to a familiar song to test the EQ.

Set the "TT" switches out to Balanced, yoohoo! no more level loss!

Set the Range to 6dB, so each click of the knob yields about 1/4 dB of boost or cut, talk about your fine tuning!

And started EQing the song, a relatively thin acoustic guitar and vocal number:

Highs: added a dB at 16k... Nice and Silky sounding, not harsh on either bell or shelf... very kewl.

Low Shelf: added a dB at 100Hz on down... big warm and punchy without losing clarity or adding rumble.

Low Mid knob: added a half dB at about 120Hz on the very widest Q setting, nice, warm, and fat without being boomy or muddy. Very well defined!

High Mid knob: first added a half dB at about 2.8k on a wide Q, brought up some nice presence on the vocal and guitar, WITHOUT BEING HARSH or THIN! couldn't believe it!

Then I changed the setting to + 0.5dB at about 300-400Hz to fatten up the vocal... nice and warm without being clouding or murky!

Next checked the x10 buttons on the parametric knobs, works fine.

Set the Range switches to 12dB instead of 6dB, works great.

Tested the in/out hardware Bypass buttons, ...oh yeah!

Next chance I have, will shoot some tones & pink noise through her just to plot exactly what the settings yield. But that's really not even necessary, the mod transforms this EQ into a totally different beast... just turn the knobs till it sounds good. In fact, on the test song, I couldn't find a setting that sounded bad or harsh, or cloudy, different settings just change the character and/or color of the material to taste... Amazing!

The previous incarnation of the NSEQ-2 was excellent, a nice pristine sounding EQ, good for doing corrective EQ, but sounded slightly "clinical" and could get a little harsh or cloudy beyond a dB or so of change... and not all settings were complimentary to typical program material. Mine had the unbalanced inputs, with a 6dB level loss, which always bothered me a little because I'd have to make it up elsewhere in the chain. Also rarely ever used the Tube side... a bit too much color for most mastering work, and of course the resulting heat.

So it took us about an hour to do the mod, and we experimented with the knobs and sound for about an hour. As others have stated, this mod completely changes the NSEQ-2 into something totally different, surprisingly so. A great EQ for contour, shaping, all with a very musical character... and for about 800 bucks, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

I ordered the mod via telephone, talked directly to Fred (a super guy BTW), he sent it out the same day, it arrived well packaged, undamaged, & came with complete installation instructions.

Over the next few weeks, as I use it on a daily basis, and as I learn more about what it does, will report back with more specific details.

First Impression... A Complete 10.

JT
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